Tony Jaa. Video for the Royal Thai Kennel

Less than 4 hours were spent on preparation, training and filming (no cables were used).

Asian Championship IPO (three-level service dog trials) will be held from December 13 to 15, 2013 at Kratum Baen in Thailand at the Royal Troops Training Grounds.

Thank you very much for the link Ilya

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    Tony and Dolph at the Royal Kennel

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    youtube.com/watch?v=W-KezvWahg4

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    youtube.com/watch?v=XEvbiF2fKRo

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    “Shit in five minutes”?

    =)

    Well, okay, I convinced you, Armor of God 3 is shit)))

    Well...it would have been like this a long time ago, otherwise it’s “not relevant.” =D

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    Armor of God 3 - shit)))

    (in 4 hours of preparation, shoot a fighting scene worthy of admiration and post it on the Internet.

    "Shit in five minutes"?

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    Well, okay, I convinced you, Armor of God 3 is shit)))

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    I wrote about this in a comment: “because the level of the viewer 20-25 years ago is different now.” 20-25 years ago this film would have seemed of high quality. And now he's just old. Fun retro.

    25 years ago...it would have looked even less quality compared to the first Armor (well, except for the graphics, and that's it...then it would have been filmed live and would have looked many times better). Just like The Expendables...it's NOT retro, it's a poorly filmed imitation of it.

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    That's not the point at all. The god's armor turned out to be NOT OF QUALITY.

    I wrote about this in a comment: “because the level of the viewer 20-25 years ago is different now.” 20-25 years ago this film would have seemed of high quality. And now he's just old. Fun retro.

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    By the way, about 4 hours:
    You can do amazing things in 5 minutes. Everything comes from the head first. And then everything else - shooting, editing, budget.

    Despite the fact that I generally agree about the average quality of what’s going on in Jah’s video, BUT before talking like that (about amazing things in 5 minutes), you should prove it (in 4 hours of preparation, shoot a fighting scene worthy of admiration and post it on the Internet ;).

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    Jackie tried to make Armor of God 3 such a brainchild. But it turned out...irrelevant, because we were full.

    That's not the point at all. The god's armor was NOT OF QUALITY. There was no humor, no action, there was no trace of a plot or game interesting to the viewer (and the point here is not in the time of the film’s release, but in the fact that all of this simply... DIDN’T HAPPEN). Only one scene at the factory somehow reminded the viewer of good old Jackie, and it was this “irrelevant scene” that the viewer liked the most; everything else (especially the “coolest” final swing in the air) can be safely scrapped.

    PS By the way, the film did well at the box office in its homeland thanks to the name Jackie, the Armor and the “patriotic theme”

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    I'll come back a few comments above. I have watched “one versus several” fights many times and have become quite good at noticing the camera techniques of such fights. So here I am I haven’t seen a single “honest” fight, even one against two. Even with Jackie, you can notice every time that at some point he fights against one, and the second one at this moment can hit, but doesn’t hit. And the only way to fight against several is to move so that you can only fight one at a time. This is exactly what Jackie (and not always reliably) filmed. I almost never saw this in others (although Yuvays came closest to the ideal in “Raid”).
    Breakdancing against several people won't work either. Maybe he spins around once or twice, if he’s knocked off his feet, he tumbles (in fact, this sometimes happens, the same Ja in “Ong Bak” and “Defender” is on the table and seems to be on the roof of a car). If you break dance all the time, it already looks unnatural. Very staged.
    In general, one against the crowd means either breaking into the crowd, stunning, crushing, "break the line", or run away so that your heels sparkle, or study tactical chess so that at any given time there is only one opponent. Something like this.

    I myself sparred against two people several times at a time when two of them were beginners, and I could already do something. Each time, he retreated and circled so that one was always behind the other. And several times - three, each for himself. It was chaos in the style of “where did I end up and where are my things?!”

    I didn't like the video. In contrast to the films, you expect much more from Jha. And even though I know a little that all that coolness on the screen looks much simpler during the filming process, but the subconscious is accustomed to unimaginable and jewelry-precise somersaults without a single mistake, and the current video looks like complete crap.

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    Billions of people are making movies now. In light of this - "think and take your time" - I completely agree. The only thing is that the concept of “beautiful” or “exciting” always has a subjective element. And Jackie...well, he is one of a kind, that is his value.

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    It seems to me, as in any field of art or in general the field of human activity, there is an important factor of oversaturation. Now the concept of surprising on the screen or generally doing something original in some area (subjectively, oneself is special) has been displaced. Firstly, the majority - both the creator and the viewer are often the same person in terms of their level, with the same amount of knowledge, tastes, etc. Because the viewer has seen and eaten so much of everything that it is difficult to surprise him, and the artist has nowhere to take the source of surprise, his views and approaches almost coincide in level with the viewer or consumer as a whole. Although we have many different trends and subcultures, IMHO, the modern viewer is very omnivorous. And this often bothers him. We simply have an overload, an oversaturation of knowledge, resources, the market, opinions, concepts, films, music, art and under-art, an oversaturation of misconceptions and stereotypes, opinions.. and blah blah. Therefore, let’s say, I watch a modern film, an action film in particular, and a fighting game even more particularly, because it is more narrowly aimed at a specific audience taste, and I don’t understand who it was made for. This was filmed as if for everyone and no one. And not even for myself. And yet - now creating a movie, and even more so an action movie, is a purely technological process, in my opinion, impersonal. Cinema has ceased to be a long-awaited and beloved child, the brainchild of the team that makes it. Jackie tried to make Armor of God 3 such a brainchild. But it turned out...irrelevant, because we were full. And it’s not very interesting, because the level of the viewer 20-25 years ago is different now.

    That's right. But.... BUT again!
    Particularly with Jackie and his latest creation.
    He overestimated his capabilities and did not keep up with the times, using his old style. He has a million ideas and plans, but they were not implemented. We can talk a lot about this, but it’s enough to take the scene on the sofas. Why didn't he mix tricking with his style (I once talked about this fact here)? It would be great! And in a timely manner.
    Also touched on the rooftop scene. The point is not that someone is interested or vice versa. You need to approach everything very intelligently, inventing and surprising. People still watch with delight videos of various human falls and shudder.
    Right. Life is oversaturated, but the interesting, exciting and beautiful will always be relevant in it. The main thing is to think a little and take your time.

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    It seems to me, as in any field of art or in general the field of human activity, there is an important factor of oversaturation. Now the concept of surprising on the screen or generally doing something original in some area (subjectively, oneself is special) has been displaced. Firstly, the majority - both the creator and the viewer are often the same person in terms of their level, with the same amount of knowledge, tastes, etc. Because the viewer has seen and eaten so much of everything that it is difficult to surprise him, and the artist has nowhere to take the source of surprise, his views and approaches almost coincide in level with the viewer or consumer as a whole. Although we have many different trends and subcultures, IMHO, the modern viewer is very omnivorous. And this often bothers him. We simply have an overload, an oversaturation of knowledge, resources, the market, opinions, concepts, films, music, art and under-art, an oversaturation of misconceptions and stereotypes, opinions.. and blah blah. Therefore, let’s say, I watch a modern film, an action movie in particular, and a fighting game even more often, because it is more narrowly aimed at a specific audience taste, and I don’t understand who it was made for. This was filmed as if for everyone and no one. And not even for myself. And yet - now the creation of cinema, and even more so action, is a purely technological process, in my opinion, impersonal. Cinema has ceased to be a long-awaited and beloved child, the brainchild of the team that makes it. Jackie tried to make Armor of God 3 such a brainchild. But it turned out...irrelevant, because we were full. And it’s not very interesting, because the level of the viewer 20-25 years ago is different now.

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    Jaidev, no, I understood what was meant, I just didn’t know how to formulate it in monosyllables. The difference is, of course, fundamental, when Jackie is kicked by several legs at the same time, and he fights back there, sits on one knee, fights back on the lower tier... etc. The difference is in principle and interaction with opponents. But, nevertheless, Jackie has formed her own style and type of a random hero, and in a duel - a fighter in an unequal and disadvantageous position, who fights in spite of... and much, much more. In TYG, first of all, it was important to clearly show how handsome Tony Jah is, to concentrate on all sorts of techniques, tricks, pretentious blows, but in a simultaneous fight he would not have been able to do this. For Jackie, yes, but only within the framework of her style. Tony doesn't have that. For Jackie, the fight is a choreographed dance and acting number that has a functional and semantic meaning in the film, a dramatic one. In TYUG - it certainly has a dramatic purpose, but the task was such that Jaa would not get lost, but would stand on a pedestal, to highlight him, so that he would be remembered in this light. This is generally normal.

    I completely agree! I often have a problem - which fighting style to take? We start to do everything clearly - it looks like athletes and the concept of a street fight does not work. A beautiful and powerful street fight. But still, we always focus on Jackie’s style. I like her more. Many people use comedy on the screen (famous actors are fighters and not so much), but this does not mean that they fight “like Jackie”. We always argue with stuntmen on this topic. I show how it should be done and everyone says - Oh yes, this is Jackie Chan's style. Exactly Jackie Chan! Because there is a unique manner and presentation of fighting and striking. A lot of people do martial arts, but no one fights like Jackie Chan. Even Sammo, who worked with him, has a different technique.
    What I mean... is that you are absolutely right. Jackie's style allows you to do things that Bruce, Tony or Statham couldn't do. Why, Statham... even Donnie didn't have it.
    But this begs the question - Is it necessary?
    Probably to each his own.

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    I'd like to take a look at this.

    PS Something about MISTER COOL I didn’t notice a SIMULTANEOUS attack by at least 4 opponents. There was an escape from three.

    What I mean is that the opponents looked solid. And the faces are charismatic. And here are some ragamuffins from the Tarasco Bar. Although the ragamuffins from the Tarasco bar were still those soups.

    Again, regarding the choreography in 5 minutes:
    This is a question of necessity. Should anyone be surprised? A lot has been done by Tony and he has a name. What else is needed.
    As for the production in general, based on the physical capabilities of the fighters (I think that Jaa still works with fighters and good stuntmen), we can come up with something worthwhile.
    I had a case: my team and I were briefly sketching out the choreography for DRAIN 100%. I looked at the possibilities of stuntmen. One was very flexible, and at that very moment I invited him not only to stand on the bridge, but also to run in it. During the fight, one attacking the other, tries to crush him with his feet, like a worm, and the latter simply runs away from him in the bridge. Good idea and interesting. Invented in a few seconds. I haven't seen anything like this in a movie.

    Returning to Tony's ad:
    If this is a kennel, then there should be (in my opinion) more screw jumps or just powerful flights, as was the case in ONG BAK in the fight with Toshiro. Well, of course, some blows for the branch variety.
    Although... I think that in the end you will need to look at the advertisement to see what happened there. Perhaps everything is not so bad.
    And again - why is it deplorable? Many people liked these sketches. And if someone likes something, then this fact probably takes place. Although...

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    Jaidev, no, I understood what was meant, I just didn’t know how to formulate it in monosyllables. The difference is, of course, fundamental, when Jackie is kicked by several legs at the same time, and he fights back there, sits down on one knee, fights back on the lower tier... etc., etc. The difference is in principle and interaction with opponents. But, nevertheless, Jackie has formed her own style and type of a random hero, and in a duel - a fighter in an unequal and disadvantageous position, who fights in spite of... and much, much more. In TYG, first of all, it was important to clearly show how handsome Tony Jah is, to concentrate on all sorts of techniques, tricks, pretentious blows, but in a simultaneous fight he would not have been able to do this. Jackie - yes, but only within the framework of her style. Tony doesn't have that. For Jackie, the fight is a choreographed dance and acting number that has a functional and semantic meaning in the film, a dramatic one. In TYUG - it certainly has a dramatic purpose, but the task was such that Jaa would not get lost, but would stand on a pedestal, to highlight him, so that he would be remembered in such a light. This is generally normal.

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    No, different actors had such fights, but unsystematically and periodically. But the question is that they were not very good in quality and originality. Bruce Lee, of course, had “massive” fights in almost every film, but he acts as a pioneer, it’s not correct to talk about him here. And so... Jet Li had a little, Dacascos had it, even Statham had it)) But the quality and original approach... well, not everyone can boast of these moments.

    No... I’m not talking about mass action in general, but about the fact that in the frame of the hero several people are simultaneously beating him and he fights back as best he can. For example, in the finale POLICE STORY or OPERATION CONDOR. There was also something similar in the excellent final scene of MIRACLE at the rope factory.
    And all of the above heroes fought, still dealing with their opponents one by one. IN TOM YUM GUNG there was a good prospect with the guards in the finale, but again... they ran out in a crowd, and Tony fought with them one by one. Although it would be possible to adjust it so that the crowd does not stand still. I replayed this fight many times and saw that it could be done.

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    You can do amazing things in 5 minutes.

    I'd like to take a look at this.

    PS Something about MISTER COOL I didn’t notice a SIMULTANEOUS attack by at least 4 opponents. There was an escape from three.

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    No, different actors had such fights, but unsystematically and periodically. But the question is that they were not very good in quality and originality. Bruce Lee, of course, had “massive” fights in almost every film, but he acts as a pioneer, and it is not correct to talk about him here. And so... Jet Li had a little, Dacascos had it, even Statham had it)) But quality and an original approach... well, not everyone can boast of these moments.

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    Another moment:
    I rewatched MISTER COOL yesterday and once again I notice that Jackie’s opponents are solid and watchable! And here...a bunch of some rabble and Tony is cool as always. This is already starting to get pretty boring.
    And why do the main characters still deal with the crowd one by one?
    It seems to me that besides Jackie, no one wants three or four to fight with one at the same time. After all, this can easily be done.
    How?
    Look at any good breakdance. There are so many upper movements, escapes, and brilliant work with the lower extremities that you can imagine a fight with as many as 10 opponents. The main thing is to adjust the attackers to the dancer. And a great fight is ready!!!
    By the way, about 4 hours:
    You can do amazing things in 5 minutes. Everything comes from the head first. And then everything else - shooting, editing, budget.

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    Short hair suits him. I hope he has the same hairstyle in the Dolph Lundgren movie Slave Trade. And the video is cool. There is some truth to the fact that the movement is no longer the same as in Ong Bak.

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    youtube.com/watch?v=EwxzH1RDZJc

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    Tony Jaa Short Reel Demo August 2013

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    Do not forget that all this action took 4 hours.

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    Everything has already been seen three hundred times. The stuntmen stand and wait for 20 minutes for them to get a full ride. There is nothing to admire here. All the admiration went to ONG BAK! This is power! Powerful!

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    Post it on YouTube, I can’t reproduce it here, I’m dead and won’t be home soon. Thank you in advance

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    Thanks for the video, I want something similar with TYUG2

    Ilya, EvilDollaR, thank you!
    Great video! His videos always charge you with energy and give a great incentive to train hard.

    Please.

    Normal video.

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    Very positive video. Hurry up tom youm goong2.

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    Ilya, EvilDollaR, thank you!
    Great video! His videos always charge you with energy and give a great incentive to train hard :)

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    It moves well, but still not as well as before. Alas, life is like that, it’s just, in my opinion, it’s very noticeable.

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    He's really put on weight, but he still moves very well. Thanks for the video, I want something similar with TYUG2

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    Um, I didn't see the comment. Show me, blind woman. :)

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      He HERE.

      Original (where all the other sites took the news and inflated it to incredible proportions):

      Newly approved productions include:

      Sil-Metropole Organization Ltd 銀都機構有限公司's SPL 2 殺破狼2, the thematic sequel to Wilson YIP 葉偉信's action thriller. Donnie YEN 甄子丹 is attached to star. Jill LEUNG 梁禮彥, who co-wrote Champions 奪標 (2008) and Revenge: A Love Story 復仇者之死 (2010), is one of the screenwriters.

      Only I didn’t mention the name of the screenwriter, I’ll hold it until the time when more information appears, otherwise there’s only speculation and rumors everywhere.

      Tony Jaa has noticeably gained weight.

      I agree, it wouldn’t hurt for him to “dry out.”

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    Offtopic: Mr. Alex, did you receive my feedback letter? :)

    About the SPL sequel? Yes, thank you, but there’s nothing special to write there. I mentioned this earlier in a comment. From the new office. information from the original source - only the name of the screenwriter.

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    Tony Jaa has noticeably gained weight.

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    Offtopic: Mr. Alex, did you receive my feedback letter? :)

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