The film was filmed Eddie Pan, Sammo Hung, Max Zhang, Jing Boran, Wang Luodan, Won Cho Lam, Tony Leung Ka-Fai и Angelababy. Premiere "Rise of the Legend" will take place on November 21, 2014.
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Tags: Rise of the Legend, Wang Luodan, Won Cho-lam, Corey Yuen, Max Zhang, Roy Chow, Sammo Hung, Tony Leung Ka-Fai, Jing Boran
Another BTS:
youtu.be/OPRN8SpV078
Hehehe, poor fellow)) The guy is stressed)))
Why do such double work? A man kicks his paw as if he were stroking his butt.
Video with the master pop singer training:
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I don’t understand Indian cinema, it’s not my field at all. But Amrish Puri is cool, very cool.
We often talk about action cinema, meaning Asia and Hollywood, ignoring India. And I’ll tell you that not everything went wrong in this industry. Yes...they sometimes act like children in on-screen action, BUT...they also had good films with action. For example - REVENGE AND THE LAW, WANTED (with Chakraborty, not with Salman Khan) PAWN, KING OF PLAYERS, RESTLESS, DISAPPOINTMENT, GREAT WARRIOR, RIGHT TO LOVE...
And the same unsurpassed screen villain Amrish Puri kept himself in good shape and was very convincing. Especially in GANGA JAMNA SARASWATI.
Of course, the Indians are on their own characteristic and peculiar wave, but still they cannot be denied.
And also, regarding the systematic villain fighters, the same legendary Hwang Jang Lee, recently mentioned in the news. In Hong Kong cinema, I really liked Dick Wei, he was very good.
Jerry Trimble was a pretty good villain in a couple of fighting films, one of my favorite films with him was Breath of Fire (Fire Breather), by the way, besides Trimble, Bolo Yong also played there. True, I like the film, first of all, because of the presence in it of a very interesting dude Ed O'Neill, whose episodes I still watch.
By the way, if you think about it, Dacascos has played villains quite a decent number of times and quite convincingly.
And if we talk about Waapche villains in action films as such, then I remember Billy Drago, Eric Roberts, Brian Thompson... and many others.
And if we talk about silat, then, indeed, there are many small and short movements in the percussion technique, but technically it seems to be performed differently by the masters. In general, pencak silat sparring competitions are much more interesting to watch than Raids.
You see, Urquidez is a top character, but you wrote “systematic villains,” and he was only a villain three times, so, alas, it doesn’t quite fit. And Tagawa, to be honest, is not a villain fighter, but just a fierce movie villain.
Regarding James Liu, it’s just a very strange coincidence that you haven’t watched any films with him. The list of his villains (from main villains, to bosses and sub-boards)) in fighting films is simply huge, and he has so much charisma.
Confuse Daniels with Hughes, well, that's you) Twins like Schwartz and DeVito))
Well, Hughes and Daniels are both blue-eyed blonds and that’s all, I guess...
Watch movies with them, definitely. Unfortunately for the greatest, they both starred in films with Don Wilson a couple of times. And the only thing good about these films was their villain.
With Hughes, I recommend to you - “No Retreat, No Surrender 2”, starring Lauren Avedon, one of my favorite films in the genre. And "Angel of Darkness" ("I Come in Peace") with Lundgren.
Although you may have seen these films, but if so, watch them again.
I didn't really understand what you meant.
This is exactly what I wrote then))
Oh, Richard Norton! Not Bolo Young, of course, but also a guy with texture.
Honestly, I had to Google it to remember who James Liu was. Yes, I’ve seen many of his films, but I practically don’t remember him. After all, protagonists in movies are more memorable than antagonists. It's a little better with Hughes, but even then I can confuse him with Gary Daniels. So just “oh, what cool villains” are Bolo, Tagawa, Norton. Oh, and Urquidez! Oh, what a shame that I didn’t remember him right away. Well, that mafia boss from Dragons Forever. And guess who is the most colorful of them all?
Here again, interchangeability is what it is. The characters who made their image, from Bruce, Jackie, Chuck, Bolo, to those who are replaced, nothing will change. Iko is memorable because he is the main character of SUCH a (blood-guts-once-it) movie. But Rukhyan in the film was cooler than Iko and therefore also remembered. In the second part, the Assassin, in my opinion, does not win anything fundamentally. Yes, comparable. But the second film itself is different. They even brought Iko up there.
This was also discussed a long time ago. “When Iko fights on the screen, it seems that he is simultaneously swatting away a swarm of bees” © from somewhere here. To be honest, I don’t really understand how he became a champion. Either there was no one better, or the whole silat was so hectic.
In general, I often like the antagonist more than the protagonist)) They are such villains, with a mystery, contradictory, and even if they have a demonic element...
Although I am indifferent to everyone in Raid to approximately the same extent. True, Rukhyan and Rahman technically work much better on screen than Iko. More precise, more cinematic. Iko is becoming more and more tiresome.
To be honest, I don’t understand why everyone is so obsessed with Rukhyan? He's only cool in Raid because his character is cool in the script. In fact, the Assassin from Raid 2 is much cooler as a movie fighter and more charismatic than Rukhyan... and even Iko.
James Lew, Matthias Hughes, Richard Norton was a systematic villain-fighter in his day.
Well, fundamentally, I think nothing will change. Besides, I think there are a lot of such young guys who know silat in Indonesia. Well, yes, Iko is a champion. But in the movies it doesn't mean anything. More precisely, as practice shows, it is the champions in any type of martial arts (especially contact) in the cinema who are ultimately the most dull.
Regarding Jaa's personality. I don't know what kind of person he is. And I don’t want to be like anyone. However, I agree that he looks like a person on screen. Of course, not at the level of the legends of the genre, but still solid.
Another thing is that Ong-bak, despite the fact that the choreography in it was largely revolutionary for that time, the film itself and the presentation were very, very retro. Well, you must admit, this is a very naive retro film, very genre-specific.
Raids are trying to make a more modern action, ragged, bloody, brain-crushing and tooth-crushing. Let's say I love hard action, but for some reason I don't really like Raids. There is no philosophy behind this. And something truly original. Technically, in the story, the characters have reasons to fight, and I have to wait and worry about it, but I get annoyed and tired when they start doing it. I watch an action film with fights, aimed at fights and filmed for the sake of fights, but it’s the fights that tire me))) Because this is not a movie. This is choreography, this is stunt work, this is fake blood, this is an excellent work of an artist, but not yet a movie. And with guys like Mike Moeller it's even easier - they shoot for the stunts and for the stuntmen. This is all good, but it will always be at this level; they will not jump above their heads unless they change their approach. For now, each film is just a portfolio.
As for Wuxia, this is even more of an acquired taste. Just for the fans. I learn some technical tricks: pictures, plans, decorations, colors, and so on. But watching the movie is boring. Not my genre.
The real find of "The Raid" is Mad Dog! Which, alas, was the antagonist. And among the on-screen villains, only Bolo Young made a career in cinema. Well, somewhere else Keri Tagawa (for “Mortal Kombat”))). Off the top of my head, I no longer remember systematic villain fighters.
"But overall... raw. Raw film material."
- Absolutely.
One can say about Jaa that he is a personality. Moreover, she is physically well developed. Both visually and internally. And I want to be like him. He does something that others cannot do. And this is captivating.
Iko has a completely different path. Jaa himself is cool. By its nature, and ICO is essentially nothing without RAIDS. What’s interesting is not Iko in RAIDS, but bloodshed and all sorts of trouble in this sense.
As you once said, “Put another person in this place and nothing will really change.”
Yes, there was once a boom in Jaa. But some time has passed. Now everyone is going crazy with the Raids. So, Iko has some chances. In theory. Strategically. That's what I meant. And, I repeat, the path is well-trodden. I didn't say that Iko was special. He clearly lacks charisma. He's not a hero. He has no style, no image. In general, yes, we can say that he is average, but very lucky. Not mediocre, no, by no means. But overall... raw. Raw film material.
Jaa is a SENSATION! (Even at one time) Iko is an average movie character.
The main disadvantage of all these USYA is that I don’t believe in those main young heroes soaring on the ropes. Not by any means.
When we watched films with Jackie, SAMMO, Chuck Norris and Bruce, we understood - oh yes, these guys could crash and get out of the situation, restoring justice. We were worried because these people were physically invested.
Now what? If you are a young pop star, then jump on the rope and you will get a box office movie. Hmm... that's unlikely.
New trailer:
youtu.be/AdkCZNkIZpQ
Will go like Jaa to film with the Lundgrens, Daniels and Adkins))
Or the Hollywood Fast and the Furious... the path is well-trodden.
I'll write a little about Norris. Despite the fact that Chaka is a poor screen fighter and a completely anti-actor, he had a quality that distinguished him favorably and, even more so, now distinguishes him from his colleagues in the industry. Namely: he always had his own face, a clear formed image, concept and even worldview, which he carried throughout his entire film career. Even though he was often funny in his pathos, there was a lack of humor and flexibility of the character somewhere, but he was unlike anyone else, recognizable, with attributes and details. It was the image that raised Norris to a completely different level in the genre. A ranger in a shirt and cowboy boots, a hat, and even a beard and mustache, a roundhouse kick, a stone face. An action hero with a mustache and a beard... with a red mustache, without an athletic physique, covered with hair, this is generally anti-genre. Maybe even anti-sexual somewhere. He completely lost to all his brothers, who, naked to the waist with six-pack abs, rode in the final fight. And this one in a shirt with a beard.
However, there was a clear and complete concept. It is because of this that I have always sympathized with Norris. As funny an on-screen fighter as he is, a lot of work has gone into creating his face and image. Well, everyone understands that Chuck Norris is still a great personality and a great athlete, and not a tricker showing off in front of the girls. When a personality is on the screen, it is immediately visible. Therefore, the roles were not selected according to the script, but the scripts were selected according to the image. Everything was aligned with Chaka.
About Jackie... I don’t see the point in talking about the future, he’s resting on his laurels, and his time has passed. Yes, it's gone. Jackie has already cemented himself in his world, and is already quite old, and in general... boring.
What can I say about “Indisputable”... Adkins reminds me of a professional musician, a music school graduate, who plays covers in pubs. And he will play like this until he is 50 years old. They pay money, tables clap, and it seems like they are doing their job, which they studied for. Well, ok. The taste is just missing. And legibility. Or there is no ambition. Or maybe scary. No luck. Confused. And the receipts for the apartment arrive.
About “Raids”... after a few films by Evans, people will get enough of Indonesian blood and broken limbs and cool down.
I won’t talk about the current situation in cinema.. or music.. or anywhere else.
Evans is already tired of this matter, as far as I understand. A break from fighting games for a couple of years will only benefit him. I wonder what Iko will do at this time?..
Yes, but if we take Condor specifically, he can only become a long-liver within the framework of a “failed sequel to a cult film.”
I also absolutely agree, I’ll also add that the film should have a lot of things besides good fights (as some here say...so that the film doesn’t turn into a showreel).
For example: I watched McQuaid's Lone Wolf with Norris yesterday. From the first frames the film attracts attention... with awesome music. And then you don’t care that the fights suck and you don’t even care that there are a lot of outdated clichés. The film (except for the above-mentioned music) has a good script without sagging, good locations, charismatic characters (Keradine, although he doesn’t know how to fight, played well, and Chuck generally got the most out of himself and portrayed his character perfectly), I really liked the cinematography no action scenes, simple and tasteful. I also want to add to the advantages of the film - the coolest Bronco (the main character's jeep) and the cute wolf. I still feel sorry for the wolf, and the scene when McQuade emerges from the sand in his Bronco is still mesmerizing. There is nothing like this in today's fighting games and films with movie fighters.
I don't know what wrong America has done to Jackie other than let him make tens of millions of dollars. No...they don't stoop to that, Transformers has very average ratings on IMDB, but that doesn't stop them from collecting their billions. =)
I somewhat agree with the above. And even more than that. But again, let’s take the level of longevity and interestingness of films - ARMOR, SNACK, POLICE STORY and much more, people are still reviewing them. And both old and young. And films made purely from BI are reviewed only by a narrow circle of fans of this business.
What we are talking about: The need to move away from simple stories about people who own business information. If he is proficient, then you need to show what a master he is and all his tricks, and in a fight, be sure to put him in all sorts of stances. Well, why?
Here we are about this factor.
And so... everything said above is correct.
And as for America and its attitude towards Jackie. Everyone knows this. There's nothing to hide here. And the ratings on various sites are very questionable. Whatever the American film, it's a mega-blockbuster. Come on. The Americans weren’t too lazy to rack up a wow rating in order to make even more money.
There are several factors:
1) It’s just that Jackie is a brand that attracts even the average person to the cinema, regardless of the quality of the film. And because of Jackie's presence, his films get more advertising and more theaters to release.
2) I watched it and liked it - two different things. If we take the ratings on IMDB/Kinopoisk, then Raid 2 and Undisputed 3 are better than Zodiac, and the number of voters is not much less (and if we take IMDB, then Zodiac has less votes than Raid 2 and Indisputable 3).
3) Zodiac collected ALL his money in China and Asia, where Jackie is almost a Deity, while in the West his films are absolutely not interesting and are not even purchased for distribution (with the exception of Zodiac in Russia - that’s all).
Those. Jackie's current films are watched only by devoted fans and ordinary people who have heard about the coolness of his old films. Moreover, the former often watch films purely for the sake of respect for Jackie’s past achievements, without expecting anything worthwhile in new films. Moreover, many from the first category and the vast majority from the second remain (to put it mildly) not delighted with the quality of the new TYPE of Armor and TYPE of Stories. Whereas, such films as The Raid, without having such advantages as a large budget and famous actors in the leading role, manage to win positive reviews from viewers and critics precisely because of the quality of the picture and the fact that those who watched it liked it.
“If we take his latest films, they are ONLY better with a larger budget (with all that entails) and that’s all.”
UNDISPUTEABLE and RAID, as well as some of Donny's latest films (although I do not disparage the merits of these films in their fighting essence), were watched by much fewer people than those who saw THE CHINESE ZODIAC.
I'm talking about geographical vastness and accessibility. And it’s important no matter how you look at it.
If we take his latest films, then they are ONLY better with a larger budget (with all that entails) and that’s all.
You are absolutely right! If you make films in the style of BLOOD SPORT and the like, they will only be of interest to a narrow circle of viewers. And really, what prevents creators from transforming them? Jackie Chan has always done this successfully. And quite successfully. We are often indignant about the quality of the fights in his latest films, but even if we compare the films of Jackie and others from the battle "opera", in terms of watchability, Jackie's films are clearly ahead.
If only those on whom the release of films depends would hear you... But unfortunately, I think that the time of “pure” martial arts action films has passed. You can't lure mass audiences to the cinema with fights alone. “Piracy” only adds to the genre. The only way out, in my opinion, is to transform into sports dramas, historical films, spy action films, and comic books. Then there will be work for the actors, profit for the producers, and profit for the audience, that is, we will be happy.
MK...
you know the old email and skype :) MK
Yes Yes! I remembered you!!! :)
We knew each other. And we share the love for Sammo’s work.
Zhargal, is that you? :D
Agree with you. But I think that now the level of quality and various kinds of resources of Hong Kong cinema is falling. And Sammo has no choice but to accept offers to star in such films. And he’s not the only one who gets caught up in such projects created as if from a carbon copy - Andy also started choosing bad projects, and this has been happening since the mid-2000s. And Eric Tsang, and others, and others.
The level of civil society cinema is falling as rapidly as Russian cinema, no matter how much I would like to state both of these sad facts.
I think that now Sammo is just acting for the sake of money, because he has a grandson growing up. Well, that's my guess.
As for his roles. The idea about a sumo wrestler is good! In addition, such a film could reconcile China and Japan to some extent. :3
My dream is to see Sammo again in a non-combat role like in The Last Tycoon. That's what he said! A very strong role!
As for my thoughts, I would like to see him in a musical film. And what? Sammo has a voice and sings well. :) He could play some Hong Kong or Chinese singer from the 60s-70s. Or in a musical film.
By the way, his role in “The Old Soldier” is not a cliché of his latest roles. (SPOILERS FOLLOW) He plays a retired military man/bodyguard (not sure from Chinese sources) who lost his only granddaughter many years ago and blames himself for it. Many years have passed, and he is diagnosed with “Dementia” (also known as acquired dementia). At this time, he meets a young girl with whom he became friends so that she became his named granddaughter. But I won’t tell you further, because Mr. Alex will soon post the corresponding news. :)))
But no matter what roles Sammo chooses, I will still respect him as an actor, director, screenwriter, a MASTER of his craft, who has earned fame through hellish work! He will be an example for me until the end and one of the greatest personalities in Asian and world cinema! He has already established himself and there is no need to prove anything to him anymore! He left a great legacy behind! But I am sure that he has not lost his talent, artistry and professionalism!
So the anticipation for “The Old Soldier” is more than anticipation for me!
I'm glad to communicate with people who share my interest in BI films :)
Well why... Sammo can play all sorts of cameos... play elderly teachers, crime lords, syndicate leaders.... and maybe even elderly teachers of crime lords.
An interesting expert has appeared on the site! Welcome!!!
"...I personally think it would fit perfectly into the image of a sumo wrestler, for example, an old wrestler decides to return to the sport. His popularity in Japan and China is high. I think it would be interesting."
- What a good idea! Sammo never had anything like this in his career. Or am I not aware of something?
Personally, I don’t know what Sammo can do anymore. He already did all his best in the 80s, so perhaps - YES. Now he just has to work on camera with Jackie. At least this will be interesting, not to mention the staging of everything that will be in the film. If of course he will?
Lots of special effects. Craftsmanship fades into the background. The hack is visible. The images are stereotyped, without soul. Conversation-fight. I respect Sammo very much, but in recent films he simply cannot reveal himself or no longer wants to try, just like he put on an assembly line an image with a beard... but what if you need to shave your head or have a short haircut? Apart from The Naked Soldier, in the latest films Sammo is the same... Sorry for the off-topic, but even in the film that The Old Soldier is filming, I think Andy Lau will ruin everything, he is an actor, not a fighter, although in his youth he could swing his legs, and Jackie is not an actor like Andy Lau, but he can present himself sincerely and for many he just reminds us of the days when we were children. I really wanted them to work with Sammo. I hope the singer who plays Wong Fei Hungg will not ruin the film... The viewer needs action, a plot, revealed images of the characters, perhaps questions for intrigue and beautiful, memorable music. Sammo, I think, would fit perfectly into the image of a sumo wrestler, for example, an old wrestler decides to return to the sport. Its popularity in Japan and China is high. I think it would be interesting.