Chinese action movie “The Return of Chen Zhen” с Donnie Yen starring will be the second film to be shown on the opening night of the Venice Film Festival. The festival will take place from September 1st to 11th, 2010. The film will not take part in the competition program, but will be shown in order to honor the memory of Bruce Lee, who would have turned 2010 in 70.
Film directed by Andrew Lau, this is the third picture about Chen Zhene. Starred in the first one Bruce Lee (Fist of Fury), and in the second his image was embodied on the screen Jet Li (Fist of Legend).
“In this latest version “Chen Wife” I tried to break out of the shadow of his predecessors, setting myself the goal of making a real breakthrough in the balance of action and drama, costumes, sets and fight choreography,” - I said, Andrew Lau in his statement.
Source: filmbiz.asia
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Tags: Legend of the Fist: The Return of Chen Zhen, Bruce Lee, Donnie Yen, Andrew Lau
Guys, it was nice to read you .. it was also funny to see the fanaticism of some participants ... well, nothing, as they say, you will be cured .. and we will be cured - everyone will be cured! ))
And there’s no point in arguing - Chuck Norris is still cooler! :)
In general - Peace, friendship, chewing gum!
to AlterNatiV
> Then you just don’t fumble around in this element...
:) Well, yes, I guess I'm sorry for invading your territory. ;) Although I think that practicing martial arts along with watching films of this genre, I started when you could still fit under the table while standing. ;)
blah blah blah guys, how much can you do?! This one is cooler, no, not that one, but the fifth one is around the corner) In short, they have already said correctly, cinema and real BI are different things, you can wipe the foam out of your mouth. I will say this, there are no irreplaceable people, there will always be someone better, question in time, in a movie about BI or just in BI, it doesn’t matter!
Then you just don’t fumble around in this element...
to AlterNatiV
> It’s just that such people can’t get into the ring, they’ll just kill the sapper outright.
Dude, I'm sorry, but you're too naive... :)
Then I can say the same about Bruce Lee.........
Apart from a couple of sparring sessions, he also had no fights in the ring 1 on 1
Do you want to say that he is not a fighter either.......
It’s just that such people can’t get into the ring; they’ll simply kill the competitor outright.
No, there is nothing like that, I once asked in a chat on the forum (tonyjaa.org). And these fights took place before “Ong-Bak” and before meeting Prachya, and at that time practically no one knew about Jaa except Panna and her parents.
Well, Screen is yes, I agree. Are there any photos/videos from these events? Still, Jah is a star, they could have filmed something, because... a well-executed fight is excellent PR.
Tony Jaa would be better suited to the title of “on-screen King of Muay Thai”; his closest competitor Dan Chupong does not reach his level.
By the way, Jaa fought a couple of times in the ring in the training camp, won the fights, but he had no fights in the professional ring. I confirm.
Martial arts are created for combat, therefore the king is determined in battles. And Ja has never fought in the ring.
PS In MMA and K-1 there are fighters of a level much higher than Jha, but at the same time, deaths there are VERY rare.
OF COURSE LET THEM IN THE RING THEY WILL KILL THEIR OPPONENT THEY NEED IT
to AlterNatiV
>> He may be one of the best as a parkour artist, but not in martial art...
But the question is, which of those who act in films and show excellent technique (including parkour, acrobatics, or, for example, just various beautiful jumping kicks) is a good martial artist?! Tony Jaa? I haven’t seen any of his fights... As well as the fights of many other actors...
PS Everything said above absolutely does not mean my contempt or disrespect for them, I respect and admire them all, including, of course, Tony Jaa. But the truth is the truth, almost none of them are fighters.
embellished sorry....not 4 but 3 and a half)))
I just read that...
but it's still early...)
worthy beyond admiration
watch the video on the basketball court
he knocked the ball down at almost 4 meters height....
and you will still tell me that he is a popularizer
he's as stupid as Bruce Lee, only in his own style and like a gymnast.....
and his spanking is excellent....everything is on point....
Tony Jah is a popularizer.........the market is zero....but he is also the king..
and your words make me feel really offended....
what he does on the screen......can't it really cause beyond admiration?
Something I have never observed is that someone would strike 3 meters in height...
his parkour, of course, cannot be compared to jumping from the 4th floor, but he is not based on that either... his goal is martial art...
and Seryl is one of the best masters of parkour and tricking, and that’s all...
His choreography is by no means the best.....13 district ultimatum is generally nonsense, there is nothing criminal there....no fights..no parkour...in short, I would say he sucks compared to Jha in martial arts....
but Jackie Chan is a legend, he didn’t jump from the 4th floor, but he fell from the XNUMXth floor upside down... his tricks are just crazy...
I have never seen such tricks from Seril....
He may be one of the best as a parkour artist, but not in martial arts....
and although these are related to each other, they are different strategies
In general, I agree with Celpaso, Bruce Lee, and then the “famous trinity” set the very bar to which everyone else gravitated. If it weren’t for them, no one knows what the level in “fight choreography” would be right now (since it all started with him ;)). :)
And the point is to do something worse or simpler than what was done before you 20-30 years ago. But you can come up with something original, it’s difficult, but it’s possible. In those years there was no tricking at this level, there was practically no wrestling.
“The good thing about history is that it can contain “if”” =) If it weren’t for Bruce, there wouldn’t be a bunch of movie fighters who grew up watching his films, and I wouldn’t be surprised that fighting games as a genre simply wouldn’t exist + I don’t think so , that if Jackie and Bruce appeared now they would make exactly the same films, because... Technological progress has come a long way since those times.
But the fact is that today it is much more difficult for moviegoers to get into big cinema than in the days of Bruce, Jackie, Jean and Seagal.
What's the point of repeating what has already been done on screen before? After so many Asian films, it's very difficult to do anything original.
I think if a young Jackie Chan (or Bruce Lee) came along now, in our time, but with those old films, it would be much more difficult for him to achieve the same popularity.
EvilDollaR, if it’s so easy for him, then why doesn’t he repeat it? As an acrobat and parkour athlete, Cyril is certainly better, BUT Jackie's tricks go beyond ordinary parkour. His stunts and fights are more interesting and complex (there are a lot of improvised means, the tricks themselves consist of a large number of components, which alone cause delight). As a choreographer and director, Jackie is much cooler than Cyril and others.
AlterNatiV, Jah is by no means the king of the thai. He is simply a great popularizer of this biography. But he is far from the best fighter.
Friends, you took the director’s statement too literally. He needs to somehow promote his own film. There may not be a breakthrough in choreography, but if Donnie Yen had a free hand, then the fights will be excellent.
2 Celpaso:
Jackie took the number of tricks that no one had done before. Plus tricks with repetitions from different angles and unsuccessful moments in the credits. The same Cyril can easily repeat more than half of the tricks, and even young Jackie would hardly have agreed to his somersault jump from the height of the third floor to the ground...
For the fact that Jackie was dubbed.... This is the first time I’ve heard such nonsense... maybe you didn’t watch the credits.... I don’t argue that I read for his last films... here, of course, his age is already showing.
That Tony was duplicated is also not clear where such information came from....
Having looked at the stunt footage of ong bak 2...3, one cannot say that these are stunt doubles
No doubt it’s cool.....but it was enough for me to just watch it a couple of times....
and they are strictly far from the level of Tony, recognized by everyone as the king of Muay Thai.
Again, the argument is about nothing. ;) Everyone puts their own vision into the concept of fight choreography, some put technique first, for some the rhythm of the fight is no less important, for others give maximum realism - I think it will be difficult, if not impossible, to come to a common opinion. :) All of them (Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan/Sammo Hungg/Yuen Biao, Jet Li, Donnie Yen, Tony Jaa, etc.) contributed to the concept of “breakthrough in fight choreography”! And they all need to be valued and respected, and not started “religious” wars. :)
Good luck to everyone and get a boost from watching martial arts films! :)
Yes, and Bruce is the STRONGEST fighter of all time. =)
But seriously: no, he was dubbed many times even in his youth. BUT he and his team came up with the stunts and fight choreography, and he performed the most difficult stunts himself + as I said above, I have not seen anyone perform such stunts. No Bally, Cyril, Jah, in this regard, are even close.
And about the fact that he owes his breakthrough to many...and who can’t this be said about? Bruce, Scott, Donnie, Jet, Jackie and others, they all owe it to their teachers, mentors, coaches, friends and, first of all, to the parents who gave birth to them (if they had not been born, there would have been no breakthrough) =D
Who believes? He was dubbed in almost every film, there was even a website where there were photos of the doubles, by the way, Tony Jaa was also dubbed in Ong Bak 2.
Oh, naive youth...Do you really believe that D. Chan performed his own stunts?? Yes, he is a breakthrough, but he owes his breakthrough to a lot of people...
Well, who knows, for me Latif showed the best capoeira in these fights. The fight with Scott is more interesting and even, dare I say it, looks more realistic, there are fewer beautiful jumps and more of all kinds of trips/cuts.
+1
Yeah....tell me fairy tales here too. Bruce Lee made a breakthrough....
He was and remains a great master, but his choreography was... it just makes me laugh... like Indian films.....
I won’t argue about Jackie, he’s all top notch, and in terms of tricks, of course, no one can compare with him....
And about Tony, everyone who watched ... everyone knows that he is also a superman only in his original image and no one has yet managed to stage a better fight choreography. Even if his last film was not a success.
Even just compare Tony’s fight with Latif and Scott’s fight with him. Tony will excel in everything....in beauty..in speed..in interest..in tension........
in the action itself.
Oh yes, Jet Li contributed a lot to the fight choreography with his ropes))
Guys, don’t argue, this is an endless topic about your favorites.
The real breakthroughs were made by Bruce, Jackie and that's it. All the rest simply equaled the above-mentioned (I don’t argue, some were superior... although no one has surpassed Jackie in terms of tricks), added something of themselves, and the more interesting and original it was, the more they were remembered by the viewer.
Tony Jaa had a breakthrough in fight choreography.
In second place are Jackie and Jet.
On the third are Scott and Donnie.
I doubt that there will be any breakthrough. Again, ropes and an imitation of Jet Li’s Black Mask.
Time will tell.
Thank you. ;)
A breakthrough in fight choreography - I'm waiting :)
Offtopic: look at ICQ. I threw away a lot of tasty things ;)
September 23, if nothing changes.
I'm looking forward to it! When's the world premiere?