Life seems normal for the two main characters: a woman whose husband suddenly decides to kill her, and a man who wakes up with no idea what happened, although unrelated, an incident brings the two of them together in one and the same way. I'm following.
The film was filmed Michael Chin, Charlene Maine, Michael Chen, Mike Chua и Wong Weihong.
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Tags: Second Life, Wong Weihong, James Lee, short film, Mike Chua, Michael Chin, Michael Chen, Charlene Maine
There is no contradiction here. The main thing is that it is interesting to watch. Opponents attacking one at a time are not interesting to watch. Jackie Chan flying on an air current in Armor of God 2 is interesting.
Here reality/unreality must be correlated with what, how, why and why it is on the screen.
Ehhh. After Cruise’s books, I generally can’t watch action films because of the continuous facepalm of “where are you going, are you tired of living?”
There is a funny duality in our dialogues. On the one hand, we are indignant that the enemies attack the heroes one by one. On the other hand, this is a movie!
Personally, I fell in love with martial arts since childhood, with Hong Gil Dong and Shaolin, which I watched more than 20 years ago. Initially I liked the whole kung fu thing. But the further I go, the more I like the simple and rational technique. As efficient as possible. I like the timely stopping blow more than Adkins’ “guyver”. And suddenly it turns out that Muay Thai and MMA look more beautiful than everything else. And when the characters start flying on ropes for no reason, exposing themselves to blows and not hitting the opening enemy, my teeth are already aching from disharmony. But... People scolded “PI2013” - but I liked it! It is clear that Jackie Chan is 60, but the fight in the cage went flawlessly! A simple, effective, convenient technique, no one was set up on purpose (except for Jackie’s opponent’s disdain for Jackie himself). Everyone hit at full strength and without any discounts. It turned out to be very real, although very far from “Undisputed”. Something like that.
Well, yes, out of all the unreality of the fights, I’m still at least somehow ready to forgive such moments for the sake of the spectacle. Because otherwise nine-tenths of films with BI can be scrapped.
The only moment when you write: “in reality”, “in reality”, “plausible”... Well, this is a movie!)) You don’t always need to think about reality. If we talk about reality, then in reality the final battle would have lasted at most 2 minutes, or it would not have happened at all, because Rukhyan’s hero would have immediately shot his older brother, without torturing him in a chain, and then the younger one. In reality, the older brother, who had already lost all his kidneys, would not have fought like new. Or in reality, the cops, seeing that they were ambushed and lost almost all of their people, would immediately call the police for backup and would not care that they were in the building illegally. In "Raid 1" NO ONE NEVER used the phone and that's why everyone died. Are you talking about reality)))
What I mean is that anything can happen in a fight. But realistically, two people would have kicked this dude.
I’ll rewatch “Merantau”, although I don’t really want to.
This is what we are talking about. One can only fight off two on level ground if one keeps only one enemy against oneself at every moment of the battle. Either knock out the second one or put him behind the first one. And from this point of view, the fight is magnificent. I rewatched it, and at every moment Rukhyan actually stunned and knocked down one and calmly dealt with the second. But there wasn’t enough strength to still score two. I overestimated myself :) But it still looks very plausible from my point of view (except for the indestructibility and some somersaults, which you can’t suddenly repeat without special training).
Thank you so much for this comment. In fact, I'm just beginning to grasp the dramatic moments of fights and their perception, which depends not on choreography and camera, but on dramaturgy. See the recent Oldboy controversy. Before this, all the drama in fights for me boiled down to the fact that the hero becomes enraged and desperately and frantically beats and beats the enemy. If you manage to convey this rage reliably, the fight is a plus. It didn’t work out - no luck. Well, I still attribute dynamics more to choreography.
In the video here he is not so much between, he is sort of in the middle, but slightly behind. Opponents are in front of the hero, and not on the sides. Rewatch "Merantau", the final battle, everyone stands on the same line, one brother is a villain, followed by a hero on the same line, followed by a second brother who is a villain on the same line. At the same time, they get up so deliberately slowly, and the hero doesn’t even make an attempt to resist it.
Regarding the final battle in "Raid 1" - Yuvais - Rukhyan - Alamsyakh. From the point of view of the interaction of three people, yes, it was done well, but a clear pattern is visible - as a rule, three characters are not in the frame at the same time. About 70 percent, only two people fight. Rukhyan knocked out Alamsyakh - Yuvays turned on, knocked out Yuvays who turned on - the first brother woke up and entered the battle. Only periodically the three of us, when, say, the elder one lifted Rukhyan by the leg, the younger one kicked him in the air. That is: Yuvays - Yu, Rukhyan - R, Alamsyakh - A. It turns out approximately: Yu-R-A\ R-Yu\R-A\R-Yu\R-A\..... Yu-R-A and then again in twos. That is, Yura)) we don’t have much in the frame. This fight looks good due to: 1. dynamics, almost no pauses between fragments, 2. music - it either speeds up the rhythm at the climax, or slows it down. 3. an unkillable villain who inspires fear when the main characters look like brats. I understand that it is difficult to do all three at the same time, especially since the viewer will not always understand what is happening on the screen, whose legs are in the frame, and attention will be scattered.
About "Raid 2". There is a scene in the mud, and especially a scene in the production hangar (or garage) - everything there is a pure conveyor, worse than in...TYUG the first.
So how many times in the current video did the main character find himself BETWEEN two opponents? Wherever there is a fight of one against several, one way or another, but “one” flies from both sides. As examples, images from “Police Story”, “Dragons Forever” and other obviously best action films come to mind, where Jackie Chan found himself between two or three opponents and almost reliably depicted a fight with them. But at the same time, Jackie was often left alone in the frame with someone, while the second one should definitely be within striking distance. And he doesn't hit.
I can’t say anything about “Merantau”; I watched it a long time ago and it was never my favorite film. In the first Raid, the lab scene, for example, was “relief-based.” Although they also ran in one by one. The scene of Iko against the bandits with a machete, where Iko fell several times, and the camera showed the angle from above several times - I was very impressed there. The fight against several was almost natural. And the final battle of Ruhiyan against Iko and his “brother” is generally a masterpiece. Yes, yes, Ruhiyan is head and shoulders above Yuwais. And regarding the second “Raid,” I meant the scene in the restaurant. Over the years, a crowd runs, runs into the restaurant stretched out, and then gets tangled in the furniture some more. The hero beats everyone there one by one and is almost justified, although in fact when the camera looked around the crowd, they were not as stretched out as they show in the restaurant.
No, Wave, in Raid this has nothing to do with the “everyone runs, but someone gets ahead” scheme. When it comes out on torrents, you’ll watch the second part and see that you don’t need any film baggage to understand that Evans and Co. technically don’t yet know how to stage fights in any other way. Everything is linear. He beat one, another runs out from behind the camera, beat this one, and again a third appears from behind the camera. And so 10 people can run out one after another. And Yuvays smacks them in such a sweeping, rather clumsy and unsightly way.
Here you wrote above:
Why stand between two opponents? What kind of suicidal nonsense is this?
But Yuwais, for example, in the same Merantau stubbornly strives to stand between the brothers (Kaudal and Buson), and gives them the opportunity to freely surround themselves.
Yes, flaws, mistakes and duplicates are noticed involuntarily. Yesterday I rewatched Ong Bak, I was so tired of watching how Jaa in the final fight 80% of the time wets the double Chatthapong Pantanaunkul, and he flashes his insidious drug addict face almost only in close-ups.
Yes, it’s a bit of a pity that he has disappeared from view since B2F.
It’s just that I already notice most of these flaws involuntarily. And x.z. that this is due to a large film baggage or past exercises, after which I know for sure that the body does not fly like that, that from such a distance when the enemy is exposed like that, I need to hit, and not wait, and so on.
But I most often believe in sequential attacks in Raid, because when a crowd is running at you (or behind you), then someone will definitely get ahead, someone will lag behind, and if the terrain is difficult and one runs from the right, the other from the left, then you can also get out of it one by one... Although... I rewatched the moment when Iko was being chased by monkeys with a machete (when he threw one onto the floor below on his spine, and the other two climbed between floors without using the stairs) - they really run up there for too long, giving Iko time to deal with the first one who grabbed him.
Of course it’s visible, but here they just did the editing wrong, if they cut out a second, then that’s it, it wouldn’t be very noticeable. But in general, I compared it with Reid. It’s just that all the opponents are there one at a time and because of the camera angle. It’s as if they are sitting there and waiting for their turn, when a flag is waved at them - march. This is not the case here in the short film. Communication is better.
But you wrote, at such and such a minute this or that is visible. But in general, you don’t have to pay attention to it, because you are immersed in what is happening. And if you joined, then they did everything ok.
Just one by one. Between the fifth and sixth minutes this is clearly visible. For example, at 5:40 - the one behind him froze for two seconds before hitting. It’s just that only two of the three participants are often shown in the frame, and if all three are shown, then not at the moments when they are between two opponents. I've found that this technique does a good job of masking the disadvantages of fighting one against several. Even Jackie Chan's films often shoot this way.
But the video is cool. Other full-length films cannot boast of such shooting and staging.
I repeat once again, these guys are filmed and edited worse than Evans, there are no long takes, the number of splices is greater, the voice acting is not studio, but as such the CHOREOGRAPHY is fundamentally no worse. Neither from the point of view of concept, nor from the point of view of execution (and in some cases even better). And the opponents do not take turns attacking.
Here I again noticed one thing for myself, while watching a bunch of films yesterday/the day before yesterday. All truly well-deserved examples of the fighting game genre are recognizable on a conceptual and aesthetic level (I mean color, color, sound, costumes, music, features of movement and combat of the heroes). You can take it apart piece by piece, storyboard it, plus parody it, imitate it at the level of acting, music, movements, mannerisms, costumes, and the viewer will immediately know where it comes from.
Yesterday, in addition to the classics of the genre, I rewatched “Merantau” (IMHO Evans’ best film) and the first “Raid”.
When they say: Rukhyan and Yuvays are brilliant choreographers, I catch myself feeling that the choreography itself is not there. There are 1-2 really interesting fights there. And Evans wins with the number of fights. There are a lot of fights there, and non-stop.
It's cruel, of course, but I liked it!!! The emotional side is at its best.
And what’s interesting is that it would have been possible to show a lot, a lot of blood. But they didn't show it. And they did the right thing. When one of my friends was beaten to death with a hammer, everything was so emotional that there was no need for all this blood!
There is almost nothing to complain about! And it was filmed well.
Why almost? Of course, I would show some of the falls in panoramic photography. It would be spectacular. The guys did a lot of editing. But basically... everything is fine! There is potential and drama on the edge.
At some point, I twitched the same way as when watching Steven Seagal fights.
The bottom line:
Among the young fighters, this is another point whose creativity I would like to observe.
Well done!
EvilDollaR: Special THANK YOU for the video!!!
Previous short film from the same authors:
youtu.be/3h26gQnNnb8
The beginning reminded me of "Mr. and Mrs. Smith")
"I think there is no confusion))"
- sometimes strange things happen. It's time to learn how to film and act to the fullest. But no... everyone often presents themselves like children.
I think there is no confusion))
“And the fact that she wasn’t at all surprised when he started killing her in the kitchen - is that necessary?)”
- apparently there was some kind of “muddy” here. Or there may be an omission by the authors.
In general, the dramaturgy, as always, is a little lame.
And the fact that she wasn’t at all surprised when he started killing her in the kitchen - is that really necessary?)
“And Dmitry correctly presented the criticism.”
- That’s what I thought... such interesting things for young fighting filmmakers, I will “lay out” in detail in the future. Maybe this advice will be useful to someone.
Better than the hospital average. And Dmitry correctly presented the criticism.
Actually interesting. Somewhere unexpected. Especially in the kitchen. The final fight is also a plus. I really didn’t understand the shot with the weapon. Did he catch his eye?
I watched it to the end and it was still interesting what was there and how. But I won’t rewatch it, that’s for sure.
The downside is a very illogical fight in the kitchen. The kitchen is a storehouse of everything that can come to hand, but no. The opponents decided to find out who was better in hand-to-hand combat and only then took up knives and plates. However, it is strange.
There were fragments when the outcome of the battle could have been decided, but no...
He lies on the table and presses it with his feet. Yes, take her and fuck her on the table! What's the problem? But no... This doesn't happen. In general, a lot of far-fetched things.
In such cases, old Jackie is always remembered, for whom every object worked justifiably in the frame. Remembering Jackie, I want to draw a parallel with MISTER COOL at the construction site. The door scene is great. I understand that they wanted to show something similar, only with openings and general confusion, but alas... It would have been possible to beat this matter.
In some fragments it seemed that the opponents were fighting very emotionlessly, and generally sparing each other.
Terrible shooting at attackers. I mean acting out. John Woo did it super! A little emotionality wouldn't hurt.
I don't take camera work into account. In some places it was good, in others it was below average.
Yes... I forgot about the obvious influence of RAID. But I don’t know where to put this. To the pros or cons. Let it be neutral.
Verdict - solid 3! Perhaps even with a plus sign! The plus sign refers to the voice acting of pots and other kitchen utensils. If they worked harder with the voice acting, the feeling would be even better!!!
For me, this is awesome!)) What a fight in the kitchen, what a fight with the second killer on a construction site!)