The film is starring Marris Crump (Marrese Crump), Anderson Silva (Anderson Silva) Buakaw Banchamek / Buakhau Po. Pramuk (Buakaw Banchamek / Buakaw Por. Pramuk), Ray Dionaldo (Ray Dionaldo), etc.
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Well, actually that’s what I’m talking about.
But I didn’t specifically compare “The Map” with Wick, I said in general: most films with Jason are about the same level. Moreover, the first "Transporter" was quite good, the plot there is also not Leo Tolstoy, but as an action movie it is much higher than Wick.
It’s just that in Wick Reeves can easily be replaced with someone else (including Statham) and nothing much will change. Well, the movie is boring, dull and scary, and there’s nothing to see in terms of action either.
There are 3 more or less normal moments in the Map - two fights and Rocky's pumped-up son. If you compare it with Wick, then Wick makes this film better in all respects, not just the picture.
Above Jason's clones because of the stylishness of the picture and everything connected with it. The rest, in my opinion, is bad.
Regarding Jason... his last one is “Wild Card” - there are a couple of good moments.
I beg to differ. There is TOO much stupidity, even for standard action movie premise. The only thing that saved us was the beginning of the film, Keanu and Bernhardt. The film was ruined by unnecessary pathos brought from the shit film "Siberian Education". It’s better to look at hired killers:
1) Leon
2) Brownie (Mashkov, maybe not a militant, but nonetheless)
3) Killer (Chow Yun Fat)
4) For fans of trash Slove (but the cinematography and bloopers are crap), Dangerous Bangkok (also so-so, but at least it talks about the concept of killers)
Each of these films is preferable to John Wick (except Slove)
Oh, and Absolute Cruelty with Aragorn. The essence, by the way, is similar, only the plot is presented more simply, without showing off.
Despite the flaws, in my opinion, Wick turned out to be a very good movie... head and shoulders above Jason's clones. I had a lot of fun watching it.
I read it. he said everything to the point. Hostage 3 is strictly a one-time movie, you don’t need to go to the cinema to see it, but you can watch it at home. Looks like another episode of some TV series.
John Wick is a very weak movie.
If you're interested, here's my review of Wick: http://www.kinopoisk.ru/user/927686/comment/2172091/
I’ll keep silent about “The Equalizer” altogether.
No.
2 years ago I remember the following comments: “But for the plot to be more important in an action film than the plot, it must be a very good film.”
"Not only the plot as such, but also the whole large set of techniques, concepts, ideas, drama, innovation, meaning, aphoristic dialogues. ... Examples? Yes, here are the most classic Hollywood ones: Die Hard 1, Lethal Weapon 1, Predator, and the first one, yes and the second one is also quite wow, Besson’s Leon... but, for example, take Michael Mann’s “Collaborator.” Let’s imagine that you can try to add the aesthetics of a fighting game to the same picture, add just a couple of scenes, just a couple of fights, but of a very high level, and so that they don’t spoil anything, but only decorate it, make it exciting, because it needs to be thought through motivationally. Find a plot device in which you simply cannot do without hand-to-hand combat. Let’s say, this fight should show, emphasize, reveal something to us, the audience character. And that’s it, here’s a great film that won’t lose its main audience and will add a new one.”
In this regard, the question is - did John Wick or the Great Equalizer live up to these expectations?
- Jamal is a really good guy! The first "LOTUS" was promising. The actors were well chosen. Eremenko was still alive then. (May the kingdom of heaven be upon him) + young Soloviev was gaining fighting momentum and in general the team of stunts was well prepared. I noticed them since MONK. But our filmmakers “killed” everything. And they merged them into one place. It's a pity.
Jamal himself casually expressed dissatisfaction with my friend about our producers. Why they do this is beyond me.
We have a lot of talented guys in Russia, but again, I’m saying this for the hundredth time, we DO NOT have filmmakers who know cinema and are fans of it, like Jackie or Sammo. Those are the ones who are really “sick” in the head.
Since the topic of our heroes has come up here, I’ll get ahead of myself.
A couple of years ago, my team and I organized a good film festival. We established various awards, invited people to present their films, and held master classes. The goal of the film festival was for young filmmakers to promote their work and, most importantly, to understand what they are doing. At the moment, I would like to resume this film festival, but make it a stunt event. Carry out every year. In spring or autumn. This will be a very powerful platform for the development of young talents in fighting films, and of course, good cinema.
We have several good teams in Russia. But you need to communicate and do useful things. I am sure that with a good approach, you can make a high-quality fighting game with a minimum of finances and maximum opportunities. The main thing is to skillfully tailor everything. But sewing it is not a problem.
By the way, people, what do you think about films with Jamal Azhigirey? IMHO, “Lotus Strike” is worth watching the second and third for fans of hand-to-hand action films. There is a lot to scold them for, but Jamal himself shows a high class.
Yes, and I also completely forgot about two cool action films: “The Thirteenth District” and “The Thirteenth District: Ultimatum” with David Bell and Cyril Raffaelli. Magnificent parkour and excellent technical makhalovka, well filmed with a good soundtrack and generally dynamic and interesting films.
David Belle is the leader of the world parkour movement. Cyril, among other things, starred in Kiss of the Dragon with Jet Li. These guys can do it!
- Yes, there weren’t many films. Although I think OUR site experts will compile OUR list of the best action films using BI of all times and peoples of Russia! Which can include INVINCIBLE, FAN and I think even PIRATES OF THE XX CENTURY with CRIMINAL QUARTET. Over there Karachentsev was having a blast!
Where is this list?))
PS Fan (1989) should definitely be included there.
Googled it. Why did I feel like I was watching this movie called “Judo Genius”?
I recently watched the Soviet film "Invincible" (1983). I really liked it. It should definitely be included in the “top 10 Russian films with BI”. =)
I would not like this topic to disappear from popular discussions. There is a good selection of films to recommend to BI fans.
I watched "Warrior". A very good sports drama. The combat is nothing special (although not a mess, in my opinion), but I enjoyed watching the film itself. Compared to a similar film by Misha Bely, the combat is weaker, but the drama is stronger :)
I rewatched "Chocolate". Somehow I underestimated this film the first time. I probably watched it in the wrong mood. Although, on average, in the hospital, men fight harder than women.
"Death grip" - very good fights (especially knife fights). True, the fight against the crowd is very lame. And glitches are especially annoying when it’s fight-fight-fight, and then it turns out that you imagined it. And the film itself is quite strange.
There’s also one thing that really irritates me in action films. Two fight (in this case, even with knives), one falls, the second, instead of finishing him off from above, lifts him up and the sausage continues.
Worldart, as far as I understand, has a completely different site engine and a separate database for names. I like it, but for such things you need to remake the site almost from scratch, this does not take into account time.
Colleagues, make a list, and the opportunity to vote. Users will figure out for themselves which is better. An example of a rating could be the system on the anime section of the worldart website. There, even if someone tries to give inflated scores, their share in the total mass of assessments is leveled out.
But “Only the Strong” didn’t impress me at all. Capoeira itself is very beautiful, very acrobatic. Why, I adore the showreels and the roles of Lateef Crowder. But there are no normal fights in the film. Dancing and occasionally passing blows. Can't compare to the fight between Latif and Jaa.
I saw it just as long ago once, not at first, as I saw “Drive”.
I watched “Marked for Death.” Yes, Seagal is cool. But it still doesn't impress me as "Ong Bak". My main complaint about aikidokas is that all their techniques are designed for specific attacks. The opponent MUST strike from top to bottom like in kendo, or [a few more strikes].
When I tried aikido myself, the impression only intensified. All these beautiful throws - the opponents not only do not resist, but even help make them.
I’m sure that in real life the same Seagal doesn’t care how exactly he will be attacked, but in the film many fights suffer from this very thing: the enemy does strictly what is practiced in aikido. And because of Stephen’s skill, it seems that they generally miss the target from the very beginning.
I once saw a fight between an aikido practitioner and a thai boxer. Both are titled. The aikidoku Thai boxer didn’t score, but he clearly had the upper hand and landed several punches to the legs, body, and head. But the aikidoka never took a painful throw, although the boxer was caught once or twice.
IMHO, Capoeira performed by Paco looked much more stylish (in those days).
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I, in principle, expected critical comments on "Bloodsport". I will say this - my friends and I saw it around 1990 in a video salon and when we came out after watching it, we almost stuttered with delight, discussing what we saw, we were 12-13 years old at the time (but I’m sure that people had a similar reaction older). I was simply listing films that were not exactly epoch-making, but still iconic. There were few people willing to criticize “bloodsport” in THOSE years. Of course, I agree with all the comments about the quality of fights, etc., it’s just that now there is something to compare with.
As for "Ip Man" - for me he is really good no matter what.
I still haven’t warmed up to Seagal, although, of course, he hasn’t been very happy lately. Just “Marked for Death”...well, I don’t know, it’s some kind of special style of action film and martial arts, there’s a lot there to add it to Stephen’s best (of course, “Under Siege” has both a plot and a budget) According to “Drive” - I’m glad that they appreciated that Dacascos was completely forgotten.
I forgot, it’s a shame, “Undisputed 2 and 3”, you still can’t do without them in the ratings of “fighting games”.
"Warrior" is where Tom Hardy starred.
I advise you to also watch “Only the Strongest” if you haven’t seen it. There he is also at his best.
Van Damme fights well in the third “Unisol”, in “No Retreat and No Surrender”, it seems, in “Shepherd” with Adkins and maybe in a couple of other films. I vaguely remember something about an adventurer, when there were fighters of different styles in the ring. In the rest of the films, he shows off his stretching and jumping with twirlers. Well, he takes turns striking with the enemy. Ten-year-old boys are impressed, fifteen-year-old boys - no matter what. And the same Bolo in real life would have tied Van Damme with a bow.
“Warrior” - which one is it? Fantasy by Tom Stout? Did not watch. I'll download it and have a look.
The second "Ip Man" is good even despite the cables. Donny demonstrates great technique. And then, watching “The Package,” I couldn’t believe that it was the same Shahlavi who fought with Donnie and Sammo in “Ip Man 2.”
The Inn is one of Jackie's top three films and one of Urquidez's two best.
I saw “Drive” only once, not in full and a monstrously long time ago. But it seems like Dacascas doesn’t impress me in movie battles like Jet or Jackie.
I spoke about Seagal above. He is really very good, but the direction and production are not up to par with Rittikrai and Sammo Hung.
Ps Oops! Downloaded "Drive". I greatly underestimated Mark. For the nineties, such shooting and staging was very cool.
It seems to me that Bloodsport is superfluous... a lot of things are implausible and sometimes comical (I feel that some facts from the life of F. Dukes are exaggerated and embellished or even invented).. the final fight with Bolo is generally funny to watch.
As for the staging of fights, the same can be said about the second Ip Man... Just ropes and flights...
And Warrior (2011) is generally a drama...the outcome of the battles is predictable...But overall the picture is good!
As for the rest, Dmitry, perhaps I agree with you... I’ll just watch “Snack Shop”, otherwise I don’t remember this movie.
A modest attempt to create a top ten, which, it seems to me, can be included in the 20,100, etc. (in two points, 2 films each, which are inextricably linked):
1. Summon the dragon
2. Blood sport
3.Snack on wheels
4.Drive
5.Marked for Death
6.Ong-bak (first one only)
7.Ip Man 1 and 2
8. Raid
9.Warrior 2011
10. Mortal Kombat 1 and 2
I don’t have any special additions; I’m sure the films are familiar to everyone. Let it not seem that I proceeded from the “one actor - one film”, it just coincided. I will be glad to criticize!
death grip you couldn't watch. It's not online except for the trailer. The disc can be ordered from stunt people in the online store. By the way, I ordered three discs from them. I should already have the 5th.
Damn, the comment is gone! It's a shame. The session must have expired while I was typing.
So, dividing the top by genre “classic kungfu”, etc., and by actors is a good idea. It is more interesting for a visitor to find films of his favorite style, rather than the opinion of “experts” unknown to him (I’m talking about myself in quotes).
“Arena of the Street Fighter” is the same “Urban Fighter” that I mentioned in the same comment. I don’t remember at all what the film is about, I only remember the burly blond guy and how he trained and swung. And I like Michael Jai White both as an actor, he has charisma, and as a movie fighter - very technical and moves very smoothly and clearly. Almost like Bolo Young :)
Florentine's "Ninja" left a lingering bewilderment. Same actor, same director, why is it such a mess compared to Undisputed? And in general, Scott really showed his class, it seems, only in “Undisputed” and the fourth “Unisol”. Well, in some series against White, but there, in principle, it was staged rather poorly.
Yes, they wave well in Unisol 3, 4. Fights between rabid rhinoceroses. Even Vandammych looks cheerful there.
And I’m also trying to remember if I watched “Death grip” and if so, how I liked it.
"Arena of the Street Fighter" is the same "Urban Fighter" that I mentioned in the same comment. I don’t remember at all what the film is about. All I remember is the burly, blond man and how hard he trained and swung throughout the film.
I watched “Blood and Bone” and “No Surrender” before, but I remember better - because of M.J. White, I like this actor. There's something about him. And he's a great film actor. Not just a pumped up strong guy, but very technical, and at the same time somehow... soft, or something. From the series that lays softly. Well, hey, of the movie fighters I know, he’s exactly like Bolo Yong. The same softness and smoothness, which, if necessary, turns into power.
Several tops “classic kung fu”, “urban action films”, “Hollywood” (“Mortal Kombat!”) are a good idea. Better than Wave top, Ravenside top, Jaidev top. A visitor who accidentally visits a site is much more interested in finding films of a style that interests him than in reading the opinion of another visitor unknown to him. It is also possible to single out several actors separately, I talked about this.
“Ninja” with Adkins left me with an impression of viscous bewilderment. Okay, cranberry, just like any other ninja action movie. But how are the fights choreographed? In “Undisputed” it’s much cooler! Scott can do it! And the director is the same! What's the matter? Okay, movies with Vandammych, they don’t let him turn around or something like that. But in my opinion, in addition to “Undisputed,” he has a really spectacular fight with Arlovski in the fourth “Unisol.” And that’s an impression only due to Arlovski’s raw power. Try to look indifferently when such a carcass rushes towards someone.
Yes, should I add a third or fourth “Unisol” to my top? Fights between rabid rhinoceroses and even Vandammych looked cheerful there.
Or maybe divide the films into several tops: Top 20 “classic kung fu”, top 20 Asian “urban action films”, top 20 Hollywood action films with BI?
On the contrary, I didn’t like Ninja Assassin at all, unlike Ninja Florentine... And “Never Back Down 2 The Beatdown” is rather weak in directing...
If we take into account only the staging of fights, then we can add "Arena of the Street Fighter" by Mike Moeller to the list. The film only lasts from fight to fight.
Well, if you remove Jackie Chan from them, what will remain is...
EvilDollaR, is it possible that at least some of these points were news to you? Let’s say you wouldn’t include every one of them in the top, but I’m sure you know about each one.
You have a double top: Top films and top films, the best of a certain actor. I’m not saying that this is bad, no one is stopping you from making several tops for films/actors/fights, etc.
I remembered another rather spectacular action movie: “Urban fighter”. 2012. I’m also thinking whether or not to include “Ninja Assassin” on my list (it seems that the only Ninja action movie that impresses me today with its fights (“Ninja” by Florentine and Adkins didn’t get through)).
Oh, yes, I’ll also add “Fist of Legend” to Jet’s films.
And from the films of M.J. White we can clearly mention “Blood and Bone” and “Never Back Down 2 The Beatdown”.
Damn, looking through this site and similar types of gun-movie companies, I regularly see the coolest and just very good trailers. But for some reason, the list of must-see films is replenished terribly slowly and often (as with Urban Fighter) out of despair.
Wave has a whole top-50 list. :)
Seagal impressed me so much when I was a teenager. And a few years ago I tried to rewatch his films - on the contrary, they weren’t very good. I’m frankly afraid to rewatch it now, in case I’m completely disappointed. It might be worth including it in the top, but in the section of questionable decisions.
What I regret is that during Bolo Yong’s best form they didn’t know how to stage fights like they do now. If in those terrible productions you can see how well Bolo moves, then what would he show if his fights were choreographed by someone with the experience of Panna Rittikrai?
Some of Steven Seagal's paintings are also worthy of attention)
Namely: Above the Law, Marked for Death (1990), In the Name of Justice,
Under Siege-2, Flickering, Through Wounds, Neither Alive nor Dead, Card Debt.
'''Man from Nowhere'''. 2010, Korea, dir. Lee Jong Beom, in ch. role of Won Bin.
Korean crime thriller with very strong drama and acting.
One of the best scenes of knife fight and fight of a single person against a crowd.
'''Bangkok knockout'''. 2010, Thailand, dir. Panna Rittikrai.
Watch with your brain turned off. Another gladiatorial tournament.
A lot of extreme stunts and fights in all imaginable combinations.
'''Raid'''. 2012, Indonesia, dir. Gareth Evans, in ch. played by Iko Uwais.
The plot is run-of-the-mill - a police operation gone wrong.
Extreme cruelty, very brutal scenes of knife fights and fights in the crowd, very spectacular one-on-one and two-on-one fights.
Pencak silat style, rarely seen on screen.
'''Merantau''' 2009, Indonesia, dir. Gareth Evans, in ch. played by Iko Uwais.
The plot smacks of Bollywood. Although you can find your own philosophy.
Very beautiful fights performed by a good movie fighter.
Pencak silat style, rarely seen on screen.
'''Ong Bak 1, 2, 3, Tom Yun Gan'''. 2003-2011. Dir. Panna Rittikrai, Tony Jaa, in ch. played by Tony Jaa.
Watch only with your brain turned off, which is why I lump them together. The acting is in deep minus, the scripts are in the same place.
Exceptionally spectacular fights and stunts, exceptionally acrobatic actor, very tough Thai boxing.
'''Yamada: Samurai Nagasama'''. 2010, Thailand, dir. Nopporn Batting.
A samurai who defected to the Thai side and studied Muay Thai.
Lots of fights in the style of brutal Thai boxing.
'''Undisputed 2, 3'''. 2006, 2010. Dir. Isaac Florentine. Starring Scott Adkins, Michael Jai White, Marko Zaror and others.
Prison underground battles.
Very spectacular, acrobatic, well-choreographed and well-filmed fights.
Action movie fans can try other films by these actors and this director. Although "Undisputed 2 and 3" are their peak.
'''Mortal Kombat 1, 2'''.
The first film is interesting as a film, but the second one, apart from the fights, is not worth watching.
Donnie Yen films
'''Hot Spot''', '''Stars of Destiny'''. Dir. Wilson Ip.
Crime thrillers.
The coolest fights of Donnie Yen, directed by Sammo Hungg.
'''Ip Man 1, 2'''.
Feature films about Bruce Lee's teacher.
Wing Chun performed by Donnie Yen.
'''Fist of Legend: The Return of Chen Zhen'''
Something like a remake of Bruce Lee's Fist of Fury.
'''Clash (Dragon Trap)'''. 2009. Johnny Tri Nguyen.
The actor's other films are also worthy of attention, especially since he starred in some of the above-mentioned films, but here he fully demonstrated his skills. And it's a crime thriller.
'''Millionaire Express, My Lucky Stars'''
Great action-comedy from Sammo Hungg and Yen Biao. Sparkling humor and interesting performances.
Action legends participating: Jackie Chan, Richard Norton, Cynthia Rothrock and others.
'''Eastern Condor, Evil for Good (Outlaw)'''
Military and crime action film by Yen Biao and company.
'''Enter the Eagles'''
It seems that Benny Urquidez's only worthwhile film besides his work with Jackie Chan.
Jackie Chan. At a minimum, the following films are required viewing.
Drunken Master, Project A, Meal on Wheels, My Lucky Stars, Patron, My Lucky Stars 2, Police Story, Armor of God, Project A 2, Dragons Forever, Police Story 2, Armor of God 2: Operation Condor , The Dragon Twins, Police Story 3: Super Cop, City Hungter, Drunken Master 2, Rumble in the Bronx, Thunderbolt, First Strike, Mister Cool, Who Am I?, Magnificent, Shanghai Noon, The Accidental Spy, Shanghai Knights, Around the World in 80 Days , New police story.
Jet Li. At least the following.
Black Mask, The Stand, Kiss of the Dragon, Hero, Danny the Chain Dog, Fearless.
I'm trying to compile my list of the best action films. The following picture emerges.
Regarding Jackie Chan and Jet Li, the opinion is subjective, but the rest of their films are not very good for me now. According to Yen Biao & Sammo Hungg and Donnie Yen - I watched few of their old films, but really outstanding ones that I still like - see the list.
I’m also thinking whether or not to include in the list the films of Gigi Yanin, Panna Rittikrai or such a thing as “Bangkok Adrenaline”.
A mediocre list, either there are few such great films, or I haven’t seen enough of them.
Exactly.
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Mestre Cobra Mansa was mentioned in the news.
Let's see. Maybe they'll post something else. By the way, there was also some other capoeira master there, for some reason he is also not visible in the caste now. I didn’t really understand who the director was, it seemed to be in the latest news that Panna.
Vega, it turns out, was turned off or not woken up.
Seems :)
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It seems to me, or thanks to RZA, the sleeping “bears” woke up?.. (I’m talking about Marris, Simino, etc.)
Aha :)
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But the very first translation on video cassettes was - Wheels around the diner!
Comical slang translation from the original English. Title: “Wheels On Meals.”
FORMLESS: Behind the Camera 1
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Yes... the human factor, as I call it. Albert Pyun syndrome))) But the music didn’t disappear, I still reworked it later. You can listen if you are interested: soundcloud.com/ravenside
It's called "End of a Tunnel".
Why didn't it work out? Especially if the music was written. Cinema is generally a good thing if you like making it!
Hehe, at one time I also wanted to make a short film about zombies, I even wrote music for it. But something didn't work out.
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But at least there will be a really worthy recommendation. And young people will clearly know what to compare.
In our city, young people decided to make a film about zombies. And I ask them, what did you watch for inspiration?
There's something wrong with Will Smith.
Hm...yes.... First of all, it was necessary to watch the films of Romero and Fulci of the 60-70s. This is a classic! You need to start with it. Although this is not the beginning yet. They used to say films were even more exciting. BUT I haven't gotten to them yet.
I vote for the top fights simply because there are not many action films I would want to watch if fights were removed from them. In itself, neither Ong Bak, nor Raid, nor Undisputed 3 amuses me. Of all the films, if you take out the fights, I would still be happy to watch “Gladiator”, “The Man from Nowhere”, “Fight Club” (and there are no great fights there), a few of Jackie’s films, that’s almost all. Well, there’s also “Confrontation” and “Chain Dog”. Okay, “The Matrix” is here. Maybe I forgot. Another part of the films is good for whileing away the evening with a beer. Another part is strong in visual aesthetics. "Crouching Tiger", "Hero".
I am for a single list, a single recommendation to site visitors. Even if it is a little excessive, it is foreseeable. Besides, I’m not sure that the author’s blocks will turn out; author’s blocks still need more originality. Here's an example: "Best martial arts scenes"on KinoPoisk. There are several reviews and almost each has its own top. The tops overlap and are known to everyone and somehow it’s not very interesting to wool them. If you tear these tops away from reviews, it turns out “about nothing.” One joint top would look more interesting.
(however, thanks to these reviews and tops, I watched “Three Stars”).
Ps I will try to send my top within a couple of days. I can’t promise that it will contain exactly 20 films. And I won’t promise revelations, although I recommended “The Man from Nowhere” to someone on this site some time ago and hit the nail on the head.
I will try to formulate this matter. True, I don’t think it will be very quick, because I don’t want to do it in a hurry. And yes, we'll see if anything from the last decade makes it onto my list.
The video isn't particularly impressive.
In principle, I can easily list an objective top 20 films. I’m just afraid that over the past 10 years, it’s unlikely that anything will get there.
I will also try to outline the criteria - Why? So short and smart. Something like the template that Ravenside wrote. By the way, good template. With humor and knowledge of the matter. I like it.
Depending on the time, tomorrow, or at most the day after tomorrow, I’ll make a list.
I'll send it to Alexandra by email.
1. We need to decide: we are making top films or top fights. These are different things, as you understand.
2. Making a rating principle and dividing films by places and gold medals or simply compiling a top list of favorites is, IMHO, not important.
3. Make the top best films according to the users of this site, that is, form a general opinion by voting, etc. - that's one thing. And forming a specific opinion for each user in the form of a list and a short review is another thing. These are 2 different projects, if you like, which have 2 different foundations. Why are we doing this? Just the top films recommended for viewing by users of this site? That's one thing. If we create copyright blocks, then we don’t really care whether the films overlap. The author's opinion is important here.
One more nuance. Everything that I consider a must see, I came across one way or another on this site. At least in the comments. My main wish is to collect everything in one place. By the way, this applies both to the table of expected/released releases and to the rating under discussion: it would be very nice to make the names references to the corresponding ones. site materials. Like "Raid (Deadly Invasion)"- Iko Uwais. I know it's a lot of hassle, but it will really improve the convenience!
Ага.
They're kidding ;)
I said about top-twenty precisely because I’m afraid I won’t be able to include even twenty of these stunning films. However, Jackie Chan will help me a lot. From “Tavern on Wheels” to “Who Am I?” (give or take, I don’t remember what came out a little earlier and what came out a little later) almost all of his films will be included in the list.
Frankly, I don’t think it’s necessary to design the table using ratings. It would be very difficult for me to rank Ong Bak, Raid and Undisputed 3 by number, but I think they should be on this list. I also doubt that these should be separate ratings from Ravenside, Jaidev, Wave. However, it is discussed here.
As I see this matter. A separate... separate page is being created with a table similar to the one that comrade Ravenside screenshotted. The most active participants send their lists using this type. What kind of film is it and why is it remarkable for fans of action films. Maybe, in addition to the main table, make a few additional ones like “Jackie’s films”, “Jet’s films”, because there will definitely be dozens of films from these guys.
In principle, you can install some kind of wiki engine. In another principle, several regular visitors should be given editorial rights (php writer and layout designer, I dealt with WordPress, so I’m not afraid of complex tables)), only then it is necessary that the sent data end up somewhere in one place, where it will be available to editors.
What I see as the problem with a single table is taste. See my “revelations” above, where I complained that now I can’t even watch Bruce Lee or Wilson’s Dragon films. But here it’s either up to a vote to decide how many people are for and how many are against. Or note that not everyone agrees with the inclusion of this film in the must-see category.
Could be so. Here, at least, you can look at the intersection of your tastes and the author of the rating. If you don’t like most of it, but haven’t seen the rest, then most likely you don’t need to watch the rest. However, another problem arises. Ratings from… … … … will overlap and duplicate each other by 50%-90%. That’s why I propose a single table, so as not to look for dozens of rates that I haven’t looked at yet.
Thanks, added. The video can be called "Formless Concept Service Pack 2 x86 or find 10 differences." ;)
PS In this case, SP is short for Sneak Peek. But “Rittakaya” was never corrected...
And here is the continuation of the video :D
youtube.com/watch?v=cma-rgd-QPo
Sash, add to the news, please.
There are a lot of good films with BI, choosing the 20 best is almost impossible. In addition, they are divided into modern and historical. You can do it on a smaller scale: take a specific actor-fighter, and in the comments, indicate his five best fights to your taste. As a result, it is possible to determine which makhachas are the most “folk”!
And if at least one person sends their top 20, I will prepare it in at least two different versions, discuss it, choose the best one, and it will serve as a template for the rest.
In what form, in what form? We need a model according to which everything will be done, so that the result will be a well-structured section. And yes, you can put it on the sidebar.
Ha, Simino woke up. I haven't written anything since October.
We have been working on FORMLESS for a long time. So excited shooting some action design and sharing my good friend Marrese Crump with the world. He is the next great martial arts star and I have been lucky enough to get to watch him work. The stunt guys did a great job too, it ain't easy being hit by Marrese over and over again. Get ready martial arts fans, FORMLESS is going to take the genre to a NEW LEVEL. That's why RZA is presenting it. Panna is designing the action, and oh yeah why Anderson Silva (yes world champion) is in it! We are still building as well and I'll keep updating our progress.
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The easiest and safest option is for them to send me their 20 with a description. It is not necessary to register for this. I format it properly, give it a title like “20 best films with BI from Jaidev”, add it to the new TOP-20 section, and publish it with the ability to leave comments. This way it will be possible to discuss and challenge, if desired, some passages. When you click on the TOP-20, an archive with these publications will be displayed. The link, for example, can be placed in the sidebar for better visibility. How do you like this option?
The ideas are really good. But this is one part of life. So to speak, reviewing the material and discussing. Of course this is important. But why not, first of all, organize at the Russian level something like a gathering of those who make films, which we discuss so often. Then organize a competition, casting...and all that.
After all, we often either admire or condemn certain paintings, and why don’t we create them ourselves.
Can you imagine how loud it will sound at the beginning of the film:
Martial Arts Info presents.
And I am sure that all our favorite world fighting stars will pay attention to this phenomenon, saying to themselves - Wow!!! They did not let world cinema die out!
Or just make at least a news story, and add detailed ratings, descriptions, etc. to it in the comments. But, unfortunately, this will be a pile of comments.
Well, there is an option to make tops in separate resources, like zhzh'shechki, and then post them here or post links.
Some difficulties may arise.
Firstly, only an administrator can freely create and edit such a table.
Secondly, if you write its code manually in the news, then some people may have a heart attack, especially if the table is multi-level.
Thirdly, registration/authorization is required. But if a person (an author with the ability to edit his own publications) has a password like 123, then this threatens the site with “global warming.” :)
To introduce a rating system like IDMb, KP and others like them, it is necessary to completely redo the site, but this is impossible.
And, by the way, it is possible without a rating, without places, if someone finds it difficult to decide.
Oh, interesting ideas being put forward here. If anything, I'm IN THE GAME!!!
I am currently developing an interesting idea based on this information resource. And this resource will serve as a powerful basis not only for discussing combat cinema, but also for its creation.
Well, in theory, you need a section that can be flexibly and freely edited by users, which can be updated. Well, it can look very simple, for example like this: [img]http://savepic.net/3671988.png[/img]
This can be organized, but you need to think about how exactly: a separate page where readers’ favorite 10 or 20 will be listed, or a separate section that can be filled in as information is provided in the form of news/publications? For example:
---> Best Martial Films ever
-----------> top-20 from Ravenside
-----------> top-20 from Jaidev
-----------> top-20 from Wave
etc.
Please advise.
Not only the plot as such, but also the entire large set of techniques, concepts, ideas, drama, innovation, meaning, and aphoristic dialogues. ...Examples? Yes, here are the most classic Hollywood ones: Die Hard 1, Lethal Weapon 1, Predator, and the first, and the second is also quite wow, Besson’s Leon... but, for example, take Michael Mann’s “Collaborator”. Let’s imagine that you can try to add the aesthetics of a fighting game to the same picture, add just a couple of scenes, just a couple of fights, but of a very high level, and so that they don’t spoil anything, but only decorate, infuse, because this needs to be thought through motivationally. Find a plot device in which you simply cannot do without hand-to-hand combat. Let's say this fight should show something to us, the audience, emphasize, reveal the character. And that’s it, here’s a great film that won’t lose its main audience and will add a new one. Although "Accomplice" IMHO is great even without the fights)
But, by the way, this does not mean that I agree that 100% of the screen time in films should be only acting and that there would be no trace of acting.
On the contrary, I like the way Michael Jai White carries himself in camera. By now, Lungren, Schwarzenegger, Stallone are showing a high class of acting skills. Experience, duh. I can't stomach Jha as an actor and I can't stand action films based on Chinese history, i.e. almost half of Donnie Yen's films. I can’t stand it when the plot is as clichéd as possible, and the actors monstrously overact or act with wooden faces. In general, we have our own likes and dislikes and preferences. But for the plot to be more important in an action film than the plot, it must be a very good film.
So I look at films like the ones RZA presents only from a visual point of view. By the way, I really liked Russell Crowe in Iron Fist.
“Nowhere Man” is one of the few action films that I really enjoyed watching for reasons other than being an action film. This is rare in my case. Very rare. And, yes, this film will give a head start to very, very many people. The final stabbing is second only to Chukalov's "Raid". Also one of the diamonds of recent years. 2010 or 2011, I don’t remember exactly.
I'm trying to remember which hand-to-hand action films I love not for the combat. In addition to Jackie Chan's films, I remember...
"Gladiator" R. Crowe.
Well, some films of the old guard like Schwartz, Stallone... It’s difficult to remember exactly, because it turns out that there are not fights, but shootouts, or that apart from the action, I didn’t like the film at all... But my favorite childhood actors, well.
Damn, I can’t even remember it offhand.
I prefer Vaughn Bean's fights in the movie "Nowhere Man" to Damon. The shaky camera there is spot on. 100% hit. In Bourne, the director claims that this is his idea. May be. But if he had tried to do something differently, without the shaky camera, I’m afraid his hands are crooked, it wouldn’t have worked. Therefore, we present the shaky camera as an idea. And if in reality it was like this, this idea, it didn’t hit me. Neither the fight, nor the camera, nor Damon, nor the blinds, which, according to director Greengrass, should emphasize something there. Difference? Man from Nowhere is a subtle movie, although not super original. Born - thick. Diner on Wheels is a subtle movie, albeit a naive one. Undeniable 3 - thick, albeit brutal, tough and spectacular. But this is just a matter of taste. There is zero objectivity here. Some people will think that I don’t understand anything about cinema at all. Someone will say: a lousy esthete, they say, action is just action, fuck drama. Well, excuse me) However, the very fact that we are having this conversation makes me very happy. When we discuss an action movie, a seemingly entertaining genre, at a fairly decent level and with interest, this is in a sense nonsense.
I don't argue that Bruce Lee opened a whole movement. The trouble is that over the decades they have jumped much further in this direction than the founder himself went. I just downloaded “Fist of Fury”, clicked the slider and was convinced that I had no interest in watching it. As a film - simply because I don’t like such films, but as an action film - because... I explained above why. It would be interesting to see real fights between Bruce and someone close to his level, but I'm afraid such fights would end in a matter of seconds as soon as a painful blow would land on one side. So with all due respect, I much prefer, for example, Damon's fight in The Bourne Identity. It would seem where Lee is and where Damon is. It would seem like a fucking shaky camera... Well, in general, I’ve already said everything on this topic.
And I love tricking much more than boxing, although all other things being equal, in 90% of cases the boxer will punch the tricker.
I sometimes rewatch “The Tavern,” but I don’t watch the films of Jet, Ja, Adkins, Yen, and so on. But of the films mentioned above, I sometimes watch fights. In my opinion, it is in the context of fights that no one has yet surpassed them.
The rating is interesting to me primarily as a chance to find something else just as cool. Of course, I will describe my top ten or top twenty and why exactly it is good from a modern perspective, but I doubt that I will open America to anyone.
Wave, the thing is that people with very different tastes, preferences and perceptions have gathered here, despite the fact that we are all united here by the common theme of a martial arts movie or something like that. Therefore, when you list: “films with fights of the level of Ong Bak\TYUG, Raid, Bangkok Knockout, the second or third Undisputed, Stars of Destiny, Chain Dog, Tavern on Wheels” from this list I single out for myself only “Tavern on Wheels” partly "Ong Baka" and partly "Undeniable" (only partly). And I watch Kharchevnya a couple of times every year, but I don’t watch all the other films listed. They don't captivate me like that anymore. And in general, I have never been an ardent fan of Jackie, I just differentiate for myself - a good film from a bad one. And for me, screen combat is always an artistic device, and not something in itself. And no matter what “pale” picture of the fight Bruce Lee gives, everything that we have today in realistic on-screen fights is, IMHO, only thanks to him. And a new dramaturgy of the battle, a new type of tension, motivation of the hero, rejection of tradition, a free mixed type of battle, expression of the enemy’s bright personality, texture and much more. Yes, these are, of course, only the beginnings, but these are revolutionary beginnings, in fact. And this video with Crump, like many other short films that are now flooding YouTube. The characters there jump great, do miracles of tricking... Okay.. Why do they, these characters, do this? What they want to say, what their motivation is. Just to show, motherly, action? I'd rather watch boxing.
Yes, I already suggested doing this. Good idea. And in general, not only do you make a rating, you want users to write why and why this film is in their top... what impact it had and so on.
Well, about the gluttony, but damn it, I CAN’T watch 90% of the action films that were filmed more than ten years ago! At best (at best!) there are picture tao-lu, where after each movement both participants freeze in their stances, then move on to the next movement. At worst, alternate jumps with turntables (Vandammych, yes), almost on a one-two count. Even Bruce Lee, with all my deepest respect for him and despite the fact that each specific movement of his was impeccably calibrated and powerful, gave a very pale picture of the whole fight. Apart from Jackie\Sammo\Biao, I have not seen a single film before at least the mid-nineties that was simultaneously spectacular, technical and more or less realistic. Well, Jet and Donny also showed their class closer to the XNUMXs. And rare diamonds like Mortal Kombat. And that’s why I rate this video higher than most action films of the last century.
If you're more greedy than me, I'm jealous. And in this case, can you suggest films with fights of the level of Ong Bak\TYUG, Raid, Bangkok Knockout, the second or third Undisputed, Stars of Destiny, Chain Dog, Tavern on Wheels?
And in general, this is the best site about action films in RuNet, maybe we can make a rating of Best Martial Films ever? So far I’ve only seen a table with released/expected films, which you can either watch all in a row, or at random, or search for tags on the site and read reviews.
The guys will definitely draw, definitely. And blood, and horns and anti-gravity)) Let me once again try to explain to you what I want to say: even if this is a concept video and a promotional sketch, it assumes that the viewer will join in what is happening. I can’t join in what’s happening when I see how healthy men touch each other in the rain, pretending to be a fierce duel.
The production isn't bad, it's just ordinary. Maybe, of course, I got too greedy. Eh, poor Wilson, we pounced on him like hawks on a mouse.
I don't see any connection. It’s not written “with realistic fights” =)
PS Blood will be drawn later on the equipment =)
It looks good, what’s even more interesting is “Spider” Silva will show!
And I just liked the video. This production is a hundred times better than... Yes, at least than in the films of Dragon Wilson (a champion, whatever you say), or the “The Parcel” that I watched yesterday.
Regarding the choreographer, I didn’t catch up with something, what’s the joke. How are Panna Rittikrai and Panna Rittakai related?
Confused.
Didn't this bother anyone?
[img]http://i46.fastpic.ru/big/2013/0521/92/1ed0268956fd557af26bcbcb72b89d92.jpg[/img]
Well, besides RZA, we now have Keanu who is a kung fu lover. And for some reason I don’t expect enchanting coolness from him either. But I now clearly identify RZA with a note cranberry. He needed to go to Die Hard 5 and go to Chernobyl with McClane.
Well, no, it’s just that, apparently, it’s positioned as something tough and uncompromising. And Crump with a knife there, all furious, gurgling fiercely in the puddles. And then I see him waving a knife, asking like a codel, but everything goes by, because there are no holes)
I also got into the remake of District 13.
Complete dregs! Again the same mistakes and again fights... fights... fights...
Average.
Is it hard to start a fight where 20 people attack one fighter...at the same time?!
When they write REAL martial arts and then show how someone cuts someone with a knife....what is he...is REAL cutting him? =D
"Cursed be the day RZA became a kung fu fan." I'm tired of it already...he's already showing up everywhere with his absolutely uninteresting roles/directing/etc. Fist, SI Joe, TYUG 2, now this.
Although...on the other hand, with his finances and connections (as a musician and creator of OSTs for famous films) in Hollywood...filmmakers have a chance to break into Hollywood.
There will be some blood in the film, no doubt about it. :)
When it is written with real martial arts, but at the same time in the fight there is no blood, no traces, no cuts from numerous knife blows... it looks strange, to say the least. But as a concept it is very clear. Now, however, only the lazy do not use fights in the pouring rain.